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us tonight. let me go right now to josh winer and psychologist jeff gardier. thank you. we know a bit from all the reporting by the major organizations, "new york times," associated press and our own msnbc efforts here that basically it was a guy who has a mental history illness of some kind who got up at his mother's home where they were living together, killed her. took guns registered in her name, including an assault rifle and two semi automatic pistols and headed off to schools where she taught and began to kill a number of adults and students where there's 20 dead now. how do you put that together? what does it tell you? can you get to anything if that's all that you knew? >> no. it's really hard to tell exactly what was going on with this person. there are a lot of people in this country who have mental illness. at any one given point in time, it's estimated that about 25% of this country is suffering from a mental health disorder. only about maybe 1% to 2% of people in this country have a really serious mental health disturbance where they might be psychotic or delusional. but
franzen on the scene, and clint van zandt profiler and msnbc analyst, and psychologist jeff grandier, and caroline mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a multiple shooting on a suburban commuter train, and we have the head of the national association of school safety and also we will go to my colleague michelle franzen. thank you for staying with us tonight. >> well, hi, chris. we are here in the knnewtown ar of connecticut miles from sandy hook, connecticut, where the tragic shooting took place today. right now, hundreds of resident s are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil to for those lives of young people who were shot today. they are holding a prayer vigil to comfort the families who were told that they had lost their loved ones in this town. it is a small new england town in area, and very rural area in the central part of connecticut here. the school certainly k-4 as we mentioned, we don't have identifycations tor age-- of th schoolchildren or the names being released, but we are told that the investigators are processing the scene now an
in newtown, connecticut, cliff van zandt, former fbi profiler and nbc oonlt. we've got psychologist jeff weiner and psychologist jeff gardere. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, u.s. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a shooting on a suburban commuter train. larry johnson the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials. and jamd baldwin, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying with us tonight. >> reporter: well, hi, chris. we're here in the newtown area of connecticut just nearby a couple of miles from sandy hook elementary where the tragic shooting took place earlier today. at this hour hundreds of residents are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil, holding a prayer for those who o'have lost their lives today, those youngest lives, anywhere between kindar garten and fourth grade where those students were shot today. they're holding a prayer vigil and trying to comfort the famil
of interviews with retired senators roll on. my conversation with jeff binghamton about why he wants to change the senate's rules and his own changing views on issues like same-sex marriage. you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> well, it's not just a fiscal cliff that looms at the end of the year. a number of washington veterans are packing up their offices and they're not
to bring these jobs back. >> what do you think about jeff immelt's article where he says i'm bringing jobs back to america makes more economic sense. >> he was bringing jobs back to america. i wasn't prepared for this quiz this morning. i can tell you from memory, he brought a bunch of jobs back in lexington, kentucky. >> he is stoned. >> get lexington, kentucky out. >> do you feel like we do? we're going to kick out with frampton after he's done with this answer. >> he brought back a bunch of jobs at lexington, kentucky but at much lower wages. >> what kind? >> it was appliance jobs. >> they have the huge apply hans city down there and all these massive buildings and their own zip code and one building after another closed down. he's starting up one assembly line after another. are they going to get paid $30 an hour? no. >> here's the point. how do you have a ro best recovery when you have wage compression, people who made $30 an hour making $14 an hour. how do you grow an economy like that. >> the point is do we want these jobs building in germany or alabama. want them in lexington, kent
came in. it was jeff bryce from reservation neck us in salem, utah. his company make once of the top systems for online booking. >> erica, i want to introduce you to jeff bryce of resnexus. he does reservations for inns just like this. >> erica, good to meet you. >> good to meet you, jeff. >> we'll match up your reservation page to our website and showcase your experience and allow get guests to book right on line. >> it sounds great. >> what's your thoughts? fears, changing over? >> i'm a little nervous sfloo what are the timelines? >> i can see you cutting that time in half initially and then over time the majority of that time spent will be spent in other areas. >> that sounds like a vacation maybe. >> yeah, it sure does. >> online booking has pretty much become the industry's standard and care says without it she's sure she's lost out on a lot of reservations. >> the footsteps i wanted to hear. >> denise, owner of the s-3 agency in new jersey offered to redo ericka's website incorporating all these new elements. >> this really has more of a modern flair to it because it shows mod
. >> jeff? >> well, the reporters were not trained to work with people who have been through trauma and yes, we want the kids to talk about it as quickly as possible which is part of the debriefing, that trained police officers and mental health experts are doing but you can actually retraumatize the child if you are not asking the proper questions, so perhaps we need to pull back on that a little bit. >> it is interesting because the debate that emerged around us for us is on the one hand as you say, what feels wrong or what we may know is potentially re-traumatizing, but on the other hand not wanting to sanitize something this horrible, because in part, because this is, this is disgustingly horrible and if we make it just sort of the tears of adults then we miss what has happen happened here. >> i think that we have counter vailing values here. so that the press has a duty to get in there and try to figure out what happened. the police have a duty, and that doesn't always mean releasing everything that you heard in the press conference, melissa, and the families going through the mass mur
. senator jeff merkley, a democrat from oregon is trying to change that. he's got a proposal to force talking filibusters in the senate. it wouldn't change what i think is a central part in the senate, the 60-vote super majority, but it would make the filibuster into something that the minority had to put some effort into using. you have to want it. now, so i want to be clear on merkley's proposal. if it passed, the minority could still filibuster anything they wanted. they couldn't subject almost everything to the same 60-society challenge we have now. all they would have to do is talk. tell the american people why. and they probably wouldn't even have to do that that much, because the majority can't just let them talk all the time, they have to let them get stuff done. but even that modest reform is too much for many senators. "the huffington post" reports that a bipartisan group of lawmakers led by herman cain and levin are proposing a counter proposal that does even less. it would eliminate some redundant opportunities to filibuster. give quicker consideration to some nominations,
's jeff cutmore is live in london for us. man, the bad news keeps coming out of citi. >> it is staggering. i thought for the benefit of this conversation i'd just have a look at the population of some u.s. cities and towns and in flint, michigan, they come in at over 100,000 here. and west palm beach, florida, just over 100,000. and that's basically less than citigroup have laid off since the financial crisis. 96,500 jobs gone at various units across the business, up to to 2011. and now they're adding on top of that another 11,000 across various businesses here. just try to save the company about $1 billion. that is just quite remarkable when you put it up against the size of flint, michigan. moving you all, i want to talk about apple here. shocking day in the market for them yesterday. the worst decline in four years for this stock. they are now officially once again in bad territory with a 23% decline from the all time high on the share price. the market getting a little nervous about competition particularly in the china market. is it possible that nokia may have a crowd pleaser in the
on that and a check with the markets, jeff cutmore is live from london. good morning you to. >> good morning. you know, uncle ben has gone back into his toolbox and he's pulled out one thing we were expecting which was a continuation of the bond buyback program. so that was pretty much baked into the story. but the thing we weren't expecting, perhaps, was this change in policy and this tying of zero interest rates to the unemployment rate. he now saying it remains at near zero until we get the jobs rate down below 6.5%. we're currently sitting at 7.7%. so there is a little room to go yet. we have near zero interest rates to come. unsurprisingly, markets like it but not quite as much as you might have expected given that they knew part of the deal was already due to come down the pike. >> apple and the headlines, what do we know about them trying to dive head first into the tv market? >> yeah. it's a fascinating story, isn't it? apple share price has gone from the dizzy heights of over $700 and we're now in $500 and change territory. part of the reason think the momentum is slowing for apple. what come
may be at least a decade behind in gdeveloping their own supplies. >>> my krchlcnbc colleague jeff cutmore live overseas. this is good news at least in the short term, right? >> absolutely, brian. and a very good morning to you. good to see you anchoring the program this morning. the u.s. has such a strong lead in this area. it's hard to see how companies trying to find this shale gas elsewhere around the world are going to have the same kind of success. we've seen millions of wells drilled in the united states. we're just seeing in countries like poland pioneering one or two initial wells being drilled by companies like chevron. so the potential is out there. it's just going to take a whole lot longer to get it out of the ground and to the consumer. and a couple of real issues here. one is yes, we're way behind in terms of the program. i mean, countries like china may have the same reserves of gas as the u.s. has. but it's just going to take a whole lot longer getting to them. and the second one is a lot of these countries don't have the same distribution infrastructure in place u
're standing by there at the white house. jeff goldberg, what is the chal inc. here for washington with -- to work with governors, to work with state and local officials who are now governor malloy is dealing with the emergency, but he is going to move very quickly to try to show some new leadership here. >> well, you know, there has to be -- the sides in this are so polarized. you have a gun lobby that doesn't want any regulation whatsoever, any background checking whatsoever. 40% of all guns sold in this country legally are sold without background checks, so there's -- people call this the loophole, but it's bigger than a loophole. that's one area. one of the other issues -- this is why the conversation always goes off the rails -- is that people in the anti-gun side of things tend to demonize the legal gun owners and treat them as barbarians instead of people that they have to have a dialogue with, so you have -- brady campaign is in the middle. they've done a good job in my coverage of nondemonizing people who own guns and believe even in the right of self-defense. >> to that p
controversial again. we are in a situation, jeff goldberg, where someone's name is put out there. it's floated, and surrounding opposition piles on. can the president -- can this president afford to bail on a second person the way some perceive he bailed on susan rice before the nomination is even made? >> i don't know what you call the endless float. these people are put out there. their names are floated, and then they're floated endlessly, and it gives time for all of this opposition to arise and formulate, but, no, i mean, the short answer is obviously he bailed on susan rice who was his close confidant and friend. he apparently wants chuck hagel in this job very much. it would look very weak to be put it bluntly -- it would look weak to bail on this because of some coalessing opposition. >> and one thing has been cleaned up in the last few minutes, in fact. there was also opposition developing from the lgbt community because susan, of what chuck hagel had said 14 years ago in opposition to the nomination of james hormel, openly gay, as an ambassador to luxembourg. it would have been the f
. we've got michelle franzen on the scene, clint van zandt, psychologist jeff gardeer. we have nbc white house correspondent chris tin welker. we've got larry johnson, the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials and james johnson, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague, michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying with us tonight. >> well, hi, chris, we're here in the newtown area of connecticut, just nearby a couple of miles from sandy hook elementary where the shooting, tragic shooting, took place earlier today. at this hour, hundreds of rez dents are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil. holding a prayer for those who have lost their lives today, those youngest lives, anywhere between kind eergarten and four grade where those student were shot today. they're holding a prayer vigil and trying to comfort the families that they were told lost their loved ones in this town. it's a small new england town in this area. a very rural area in the central part of connecticut he
in congressman jeff flake, republican from arizona, and soon-to-be senator in just a few days. good morning. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> i don't need to tell you, time is quickly running out. how optimistic are you or pessimistic about a deal before midnight? >> you know, about 50/50 right now. i obviously would like to see a deal that would avoid the cliff, but it depends upon the content. i think the worst thing we can do is turn off the sequester or the automatic spending cuts. the real cliff will come if we fail to deal with our debt and deficit. we just can't do that. >> that -- >> i don't like the content of the sequester. i do think it inordinately hits defense but that is something we can negotiate once we get into the new year. but to turn off those cuts would be just a frank admission we can't cut spending ever. i think the markets will respond very negatively to that and as well they should. >> you've also said republicans are resigned to seeing some sort of income tax hike. i wonder what is acceptable to you. we've heard 400,000, we've heard 450,000. is
. jeff merkley is right after this. ah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> all right, we're talking about the latest in the fiscal cliff or we should say, fiscal curb drama in washington. i want to talk to you, jamelle, about where, maybe, the democratses are coming from others. we were talking about this in the last segment about how the game changes on january 1st. if there's no deal and inaction, there's a lot of leverage it would seem that president obama would have. all the bush era tax rates go away. polls suggest republicans will be blamed more than democrats with if we go over the curb so to speak. is there a real incentive here for democrats to say, let's just not make a deal today? >> i think the only incentives for democrats not to make a deal, to wait for us to go over the curb, to wait for us to repeal the bush tax cuts or moving i
at the beginning of a senate they adopt the rules and they can by a majority of rules. i want to bring in jeff merkley. senator, good morning. you are not trying to scrap the filibuster. tell me what your goal is in the reforms that you have proposed. >> yes. we're trying to make the filibuster actually work the way it was intended. that is, that folks have to make their case known before their colleagues, before the american public. that they can't simply obstruct, use a filibuster, the silent filibuster we have now to obstruct bills and kill bills in the middle of the night. so clearing the path to the floor enhances debate. getting things to conference committee certainly doesn't subtract from debate and moves the process forward. the talking filibuster says that if you're going to obstruct or say there should be more debate, you have to make your case and the public can weigh in on whether you're a hero or a bum. >> if a cable news viewer has woken up early and they're saying, why am i watching these people talk about how they're going to run their meetings? what are the substantive takes
, to think and feel your way into a historic disaster. with me are jeff zeleny with "the new york times" and susan milligan who is contributing editor at ""u.s. news & world report."" you laugh, it's not funny. you both attended that harvard institute of policy forum. they just released, we have the audio recordings of that not filmed event. we have a real autopsy of what went on behind the scenes. during the primaries, the conventions and the general election on the romney side. let's start with the republican race for the nomination. romney's campaign manager matt rhodes was asked whether his candidate had gone too far to the right on immigration when challenged by texas governor rick perry and whether he had any regret about that. rhodes brings up the romney attacks on perry for calling social security a ponzi scheme and says he now feels that would have been enough to defeat perry. he says he didn't need to take the hard right stance on immigration. let's listen to this. here it is. >> i regret that -- i truly believe that people were shocked that we were going after governor perry
couples that brought this case ultimately, chris and sandy, and paul and jeff, simply wanted the right to be able to marry the person that they love, and for their families to have the same recognition as their neighbors, and that's why this case is so simple. i do believe it was the right time, and i am confident, i am optimistic that once the court hears this case and sees the evidence that was preblted at trial, that as they have so many times in our nation's past, will come down on the side of freedom and equality. >> it's clearly where the american people are in terms of all the polling. the country has moved on. it's accepted. gay marriage is -- >> no question. >> same-sex marriage is simply an accepted fact of life, and so many families across the country. yet, the risk is that this could become illegal. what happens to all of these couples? what happens to their rights? >> look. at the end of the day, again, i'm optimistic we'll win this case. as we did in the lower court and by a judge who was first appointed by ronald reagan and then later by george bush. and then won at the
appointment. so now some democrats led by oregon senator jeff americaly are saying it's time to reform the senate rules themselves when the new congress convenes next month, they want to stop filibuster abuse by actually making senators talk on the senate floor when they want to filibuster. now, that didn't sit well with republican minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> what the majority leader is saying is he will break the rules of the senate in order to change the rules of the senate. i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grap grab strenuously and loudly. >> democrats can change the filibuster rules to prevent abuse of power when the new congress is sworn in. 48 democratic senators are on board with the rule change. but why is it so hard for democrats to summon these last few remaining votes? let's ask the man himself, the man leading the charge, oregon senator jeff americaly. thanks for being here. >> thank you. it's great to be here. >> you've got this plan, you've got a lot of senators on board. what exactly would your plan do and why would it deal with this gri
there are fundamental lives at stake. when we filed this case, chris and sandy and jeff and paul had been together for ten years. now they have been together for almost 12, over 13 years. chris and sandy's twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they will be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. >> isn't it true that when we had this in the court in the ninth in the appellate level, nobody came forward because nobody could come up with what you call a justification, some compelling reason. just chat on that point. you raised it. there's no compelling reason against giving the rights to people, the right to marriage. >> that's exactly right, chris. it's important to note in both of these cases, the united states government has refused to defend doma, the federal law that's now before this court, and when we filed the case right here in california, as one has to do, we sued the governor at the time, which was arnold schwarzenegger and our attorney general at the time, which was je
and sandy and jeff and paul had been together 10 years and now almost 12 years. chris and sandy's twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they'll be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. >> isn't it true when we had this in the court at the appellate forward nobody came forward because nobody could come up with a justification, compelling reason. you raised it. there's no compelling reason against giving the right to people the right to marriage. >> that's exactly right. important to note in both of these cases, the united states government has refused to defend doma, the federal law before this court. when we filed the case in california, as one has to do, we sued the governor at the time, arnold schwarzenegger and our attorney general at the time, jerry brown, the current governor. both responded by refusing to defend the case and ultimately joined our signed the case and said it was fundamentally and unconstitutional law and they weren't going to defend it. the judge i
senator jeff bigaman went on the colbert report and you can say stretched the truth a bit. >> we know the house of representative is a bunch of losers compared you to guys. do you have the power as a senator to just walk up to anyone in congress and give them a wedgy? >> yeah, i guess i do. >> all right. that's worth it right there. >> okay. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to dylan drier. she has your weather channel forecast. he didn't know how to respond to that. okay, it's worth it. >> good old fashioned wedgy. growing up with two older brothers, i had a few myself. >> poor dylan. >> yeah. we are looking at a good amount of rain across the east coast of the carolinas. don't worry. it's short lived. it's already moving off shore. so the rain that we're seeing across hateras and most of eastern north carolina, it is going to wind down pretty quickly. we also have some snow still falling back across nevada where we do have winter storm warnings in effect. the highest elevations above 7,000 feet koend up pick
to find out. ♪ are you ready for a new sensation ♪ >> back in march we visited with jeff and steven. they were considering shutting down their wedding dress business called fancy new york. sales were disappointing. our makeover team had a lot of suggestions. one of the biggest, a name change. the company's now called fancy bridle and things are picking up with the guidance of the business experts. the brothers moved their production from overseas. the dresses are now made at a competitive cost right down the street from their showroom in new york's garment industry. steven who was living abroad moved back to new york so they could work on the business together. they also took our social media advice and have embraced pinterest. introducing their tea-length dresses to a whole new audience. they just shipped their major shipment to major up-scale retail jeer in june we went to massachusetts where their contracting kpaerngs synergy total home was bleeding money. we worked with them on their name changing it to howehowell & howell & dunworth remodels and overhauled their website. unfort
>> that's jeff singing "hallelujah." alan light, the book explores the unlikely journey from obscurity to modern day hymn. it's great to have you on the sh show. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all, tell us how that happened. >> it happened over a long period of time. leonard cohen first reported "hallelujah" in 1984. his label turned down the album it was on. it came out to no notice at all. and over the course of 10, 15, 20 years, more people discovered this song. jeff buckley recorded it in 1994. after jeff buckley's death it got more notice and then people started to pick up on the magic of this song, put it in soundtracks, on tv shows. more and more people recorded it. >> it's everywhere. >> wainwright is nothing short of extraordinary. >> it was on the soundtrack to "shrek" one of the key moments in getting this out there. there are now 350-some recordings of this song and thousands more performances by bob dylan and u2 and, you know, everybody all around the world knows this song. >> but it almost didn't happen. it languished in obscurity. >> first when leonard was writing
well. stephanie, tell me -- i'm bad. i'm bad. jeff jacoby, columnist. i apologize for getting your last name wrong, jacoby. jeff jacoby. i keep doing it. >> well, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? up next, the year in race. really. something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> welcome back. it's our year in review show. we have hit on politics, we talked lgbt for 2012 and covered the ladies issues out. this mmhp and us sitting here in nerdland, yep, we are going to talk race. what better time to do a 2012 race discussion, what better way to start it than in this moment. roll the split screen. yep, there it is. the naacp convention from july. there was mitt romney and there was joe biden. let's listen first to governor romney's address, shall we? >> if our goal is jobs, we have to stop spending over $1 trillion more than we take in every year. and so -- and so to do that, i'm going to elimina
, go to axiron.com. >>> let's bring back our panel. jeff, that tribute video hillary clinton and i know we're going to get hilary 2016 stories. they with will churn out as soon as the president names whoever he names to replace her. she seemed almost energized by it. >> how could she not. this is the celebration of her long life. not an easy one her public life. she's ending at a high point here. 2013 is going to be filled for, at least people in our business a lot of chatter about what she's going to do or not going to do. i believe she doesn't know. let her take a break. >> that i buy. yes people around her will put together the operation. >> just watching that it reminds you with john mccain on tape like that, it is really -- she would be a powerful force. >> it's a reminder that we might get clinton-bush the sequel. at the end of the day, right? who else do the republicans have? who would make a better transitional leader from 20th century. the guy who is married to a mexican-american. >> i'm an enormous fan of jeb bush. i think he would be fantastic. his son george p. is exploring
note and atlantic magazine. steve is also a former policy adviser for new mexico senator jeff bingaman. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you rachel. >> am i being naive to think this was going to pass? >> a lot of people thought it was going to pass. of all the treaties, this would be the easiest to pass. there were other treaties pending. this is about people in need and it didn't. this is a branch of the gop that did you want represent all republicans, but it's the obnoxious nationalist wing that really resents any international deal making. there's a lot of worry not just about people with disabilities, but all the other treaties that position the united states and show that it can be the primary sculptor of global affairs, and we're defecting from that as of today's vote. >> so 126 countries ratifying this, but us, not ratifying it. particularly when it's modeled on our law. that takes us out of a global leadership role? >> it leaves a void that the united states is walking away from the responsibility of primary leadership in the world of sculpting global affairs in t
likely not presently have in the united states senate pat toomey, rand paul, mike lee, marco rubio, jeff flake, ron johnson, ted cruz. we would not have a republican establishment that worries that conservatives might actually primary them. demint also had backed candidates who went on to lose their general elections. richard mourdock in indiana, christine o'donnell in delaware, ken buck out in colorado. bob, i'm going to back to this again. when the chief ramrod of the right wing senate candidates leaves the post, who would replace him? how is this good news for the right? >> look, i'm not saying whether it's good news or bad news, i'm telling you what i think his calculation is. his calculation is he can be more of a free agent. i think he will get very involved in primaries, he will push hard right issues. i wish him well because the candidates he succeeded in nominating have quite often lost winnable seats. the notion, for example, that ted cruz -- the republicans were going to win that seat and it was going to be a conservative republican, but there are at least five senate seats an
in the gop are looking to cheat their way to victim pi. -- victory. and then there's senator jeff sessions. he says forget cutting subsidies to big oil or business. he'd support legislation to cut food stamps. >> why not cut something else? there are other things that could be on the table before you pick a program that is feeding the nation's poor children. >> i'm not picking a program. i'd say all programs need to be examined in this government. this government is wasting money every day. >> feeding the nation's poor children. well, that's wasting money, apparently. and according to to new jersey congressman scott garrett, so is disaster money for hurricane sandy. >> new jersey doesn't get that even if it's wasteful. really going to be hurt. >> so one person's stimulus is another person's wasteful spending. >> helping his own constituents recover from a devastating hurricane is wasteful? the gop might be at a loss for why they're down and out, but i don't think anyone is. joining me now is richard wolffe vice president and executive editor of the msnbc.com. and cynthia tucker, pulitzer p
consideration, the main way to change the rules comes from oregon democrat jeff merkley. if you want to filibuster, you can't say 60 vote rule, too bad. can't vote on that. you actually have to go down and hold the floor and talk and talk and talk and talk all night and for days and for weeks. you need to work for it. there is merit to this idea. it would make filibusters harder on the minority. it would make them more transparent to the public. it would make them less likely on popular bills, but it wouldn't reverse the transformation of the senate into a place where 60 votes required to get anything done. so there is a proposal that personally i like better. frankly, it's kind of an ingenious proposal. it recognizes that there is general value in protecting the minority's right to be heard. but in order to protect that right, you don't need to make every vote a 60-vote supermajority. this proposal would in one fell swoop end the 60-vote senate, but it would preserve the interests of lengthy debate. the idea doesn't come from outside group or some young radical. it comes from a long
white and senator jeff merkley who will detail his plan to fight filibuster. next is "andrea mitchell reports." luke russert is in for andrea. how are you doing? >> i'm doing good. nice to see a writer for "the nation" dress like that. >> i cleaned it up. >> great stuff, good to see you in the hosting chair. i'm luke russert in for andrea mitchell. >>> up next, deadline looms and house is staying out on the winter break. the movements and lack thereof in washington with senator kay bailey hutchison and congressman jerry nadler. plus what's next on gun control and all you can look forward to in the next 24. iti price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. i've got a nice long life ahe
term for president barack obama. senator jeff murphy will join us to explain why before the senate does anything, it has to reform the fill la buster. and we will look at this debate that has been prompted by the movie "zero dark 30" with professor, author, and emmy award winner. all that starts in just three minutes.
the can down the road, jeff, we'll do some small deal and create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> just let the people's housework its will. instead of handing over the keys to the most extreme elements in the house republican caucus. >> a lot of people donnell realize he is blocking a vote in the house. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> i am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> i want to bring you in and say good morning to sander levin. sir, it's good to have you with me. what is your expectations or thoughts about hear that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's
's the important thing to understand. what har ray reid and especially younger senators, people like jeff merkley from oregon, are proposing to restore the filibust filibuster. it's a very simple proposal. they it want to bring back the filibuster as it existed in "mr. smith goes to washington." they want it it to be like jimmy stewart where they had to go to the floor and stand on your principles. now, unfortunately, the filibuster is usually used secretly behind closed doors to stop debate to prevent us from even having a vote. that has nothing to do with what americans understand as a filibuster and there is simply no reason to allow the abuses to continue. >> well, it means that if they were to filibuster, they have to go to the floor and do as you say, "mr. smith goes to washington," and talk endlessly until some conclusion. what do the changes mean for democratic bills, you think? >> it could mean a lot, because many of the bills that democrats have proposed have majority support. they can win in the senate. the problem is they can't get to the 6 o votes that would be required to break a fi
you, with a picture of jeff bridges from "the big lewbowski." >> weed busts really put a tax on law enforcement. you have to pull somebody over, if you find a bong or something else, there's an arrest, probably a misdemeanor. there really is a draining of police resources but i'll tell you where the money is being made. it's being made in the court system on the fiennes. so there is no grand rush to legitimize or legalize marijuana frankly because the penal system is profiting from it. i'll tell you what else is happening. some kids are being convicted of misdemeanors, low level felonies, and it's ruining their lives. they're not able to get jobs or federal student aid for school and those kind of things. i'm the biggest truther there is on some of this stuff, but if you're smoking it in your house, i just think it's your business. >> what does the federal government do? >> the federal government considered pot the same as lsd and heroin. >> same classification of drug. >> heroin. i didn't even know heroin still existed. apparently it still does. and pot does, too. the difference is
, but at the end of the day there are fundamental lives at stake. when we filed this case chris and sandy and jeff and paul had been together for ten years. now they have been foth for almost 12, over 13 years. chris and sandy's twin boys were just entering high school. when this case is heard, they will be getting ready to graduate from high school. their moms deserve the same freedom to marry just as everyone else has in this country. and in this country we don't deny a certain portion of our citizens a fundamental right. we just don't. it's not american. >> isn't it true that when we had this in the court in the ninth in the appellate level, nobody came forward because nobody could come up with what you call a justification, some compelling reason. just chat on that point. you raised it. there's no compelling reason against giving the rights to people, the right to marriage. >> that's exactly right, chris. it's important to note in both of these cases, the united states government has refused to defend doma, the federal law that's now before this court, and when we filed the case right here in
, jeff flake. >> right. >> but he is also the guy that gave his personal seal of approval to crazies like christine o'donnell and sharron angle and richard mourdock and todd akin. in the end, is this a net-net win for republicans who have some amount of their sanity, a shred of it left? >> not necessarily. when they did the count of his 35 major legislative proposals, none were enacted into law. as you were reporting, alex, it was really the king maker status and the relationship with the tea party that he leveraged more so than doing anything specific on the hill. having said that, what i think is particularly interesting is this reflects sort of the weird moment that we're in political life in the country. participation is very high. democracy is very low. and so while people are turning out to vote, and we have all this incredible enthusiasm out there. we just had this big long election. we have a congress that everyone knows is broken. we have money that really, you know, floods the system. and we have a senate in particular that has record-breaking filibuster and obstruction rates un
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